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		<title>Pre-Purim Poem 2011 / 5771</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 04:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Following the precedent set last year, my sermon for the Shabbat before Purim was delivered in rhyming couplets.  I'm also pleased to report this one was equally well received. <p><a href="http://www.joshyuter.com/2011/03/20/judaism/sermons-lectures-and-divrei-torah/pre-purim-poem-2011-5771/#more-1994" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a></p></p><p>The post <a href="http://www.joshyuter.com/2011/03/20/judaism/sermons-lectures-and-divrei-torah/pre-purim-poem-2011-5771/">Pre-Purim Poem 2011 / 5771</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.joshyuter.com">YUTOPIA</a>.</p>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: center;"><em>Following the precedent set <a href="http://joshyuter.com/2010/02/28/odds-and-ends/shtick/a-pre-purim-poem/">last year</a>, my sermon for the Shabbat before Purim was delivered in rhyming couplets.  I'm also pleased to report this one was equally well received</em></p>
<p>It's Purim again and you know what that means.<br />
It's time to revisit our Purim routines.</p>
<p>Gifts to the poor and baskets of fruit<br />
Reading megillah as we holler and hoot</p>
<p>And the meal of course which should make you rethink<br />
Just how much of whiskey and wine you should drink</p>
<p>But when we celebrate this particular season<br />
We often ignore or forget its main reason </p>
<p>For unlike <em>hagim</em> when we reenact miracles<br />
On Purim we mostly promote the satirical</p>
<p>We're laugh, we sing, and we put on a spiel<br />
One day to have fun - so what's the big deal?</p>
<p>God saved us again, this time through means hidden<br />
And where does it say letting loose is forbidden?</p>
<p>Now I don't mean to stop anyone from enjoying<br />
And I'm sorry in advance if I'm being annoying</p>
<p>But I'd like to remind everyone in this shul<br />
We have deeper meanings as a general rule</p>
<p>There's of course nothing wrong with our celebration<br />
I'd just like to include a small contemplation</p>
<p>Yes we were saved from a terrible danger<br />
From a drunk king and Haman - the whole plot's arranger</p>
<p>We all know by now how the story begins<br />
But consider the question - just when did we win?</p>
<p>With all of our parties we hardly give thought<br />
To the end of the story and the war that was fought</p>
<p>Haman's great plan was to have the Jews killed<br />
And so he affected how the king willed</p>
<p>Ahashverosh decreed that throughout all his lands<br />
The Jews could be killed just by his command</p>
<p>Esther and Mordechai worked out their own plot<br />
To ensure Haman's plan would come out for naught</p>
<p>It involved Achashverosh getting drunk one more time<br />
Which it seems is as easy for this Rabbi to rhyme.</p>
<p>It is a long story and so I'll condense<br />
This "great help" from the king just allowed self-defense</p>
<p>The whole of the empire - still free to attack<br />
The only change now is that Jews could fight back</p>
<p>Now as miracles go and what God can do<br />
This seems kind of lame - to me if not you</p>
<p>At least by Hannukah we fought with poor odds<br />
That we can say that we won with assistance from God</p>
<p>In the story of Purim there is nary a mention<br />
Of even a hint of divine intervention</p>
<p>The groups of the Jews seemed to fight on their own<br />
And any assistance was at best unknown</p>
<p>For Achashverosh too did not intervene<br />
And the outcome of battle could not be forseen</p>
<p>And yet they took arms to fight for their lives<br />
And because of their courage, our people survives</p>
<p>But there's an important description our Megillah makes clear<br />
That our deadly opponents were overtaken by fear</p>
<p>At the climax of Haman's elaborate scheme<br />
נָפַל פַּחְדָּם עַל כָּל הָעַמִּים </p>
<p>So why were they frightened - what need to be scared<br />
Of a people for whom the king barely cared?</p>
<p>An answer I'd offer lies within all mankind<br />
That it is towards freedom that we are all inclined</p>
<p>And when banded together to fight for what's right<br />
Few forces can stop us, no matter their might</p>
<p>The greatest response to a powerful bully<br />
Is to stand up as one and oppose him quite fully</p>
<p>As we've seen recently, sitting here quite complacent<br />
Middle East revolutions - some only still nascent</p>
<p>The price that it takes to create a free nation<br />
Cannot be adjusted to any inflation</p>
<p>But people will tell you that despite lives that were lost<br />
That sometimes the battles are worth every cost</p>
<p>To be perfectly clear and avoid all confusion<br />
I am not advocating for armed revolution</p>
<p>But to remind everyone that in times of distress<br />
We cannot remain silent while being oppressed</p>
<p>There are all sorts of reasons and tired excuses<br />
For ignoring one's pain and recurring abuses.</p>
<p>It's too big, too hard, our opponents too massive<br />
There's no need to act, I'll just sit and be passive</p>
<p>On Purim at least - for one day, or two<br />
We put those aside for what we had to do</p>
<p>When we join together, united as one<br />
There is no evil we cannot overcome</p>
<p>Unique to Purim, for all lessons learned<br />
Is that sometimes our comfort and cheer must be earned</p>
<p>Having faith in God is all well and good<br />
As long as our own role is as well understood</p>
<p>For the Jews in the Megillah, Purim meant to them<br />
קִיְּמוּ וקבל וְקִבְּלוּ הַיְּהוּדִים עֲלֵיהֶם </p>
<p>They reaccepted the Torah with total free choice<br />
And only after committing, were they free to rejoice</p>
<p>So recall as we dine on meal that's most hearty<br />
That sometimes we must fight for our own right to party</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.joshyuter.com/2011/03/20/judaism/sermons-lectures-and-divrei-torah/pre-purim-poem-2011-5771/">Pre-Purim Poem 2011 / 5771</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.joshyuter.com">YUTOPIA</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Episode 21 - Drinking on Purim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 01:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Rabbi Josh Yuter delivers a class of his classic 2004 post <a href="http://joshyuter.com/2004/03/03/judaism/jewish-law-halakha/drinking-on-purim/">Drinking on Purim</a> <p><a href="http://www.joshyuter.com/2011/03/01/podcasts/episode-21-drinking-on-purim/#more-1932" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a></p></p><p>The post <a href="http://www.joshyuter.com/2011/03/01/podcasts/episode-21-drinking-on-purim/">Episode 21 - Drinking on Purim</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.joshyuter.com">YUTOPIA</a>.</p>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabbi Josh Yuter delivers a class of his classic 2004 post <a href="http://joshyuter.com/2004/03/03/judaism/jewish-law-halakha/drinking-on-purim/">Drinking on Purim</a></p>
<p><a href='http://www.joshyuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Drinking-on-Purim1.pdf'>Drinking on Purim Sources (PDF)</a></p>
<p><a href='http://www.joshyuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Drinking-on-Purim1.mp3'>Episode 21 - Drinking on Purim</a></p>
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		<title>What&#039;s in a Name?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Happy Shushan Purim to All! All is well in YUTOPIA, some quick updates: In a nice case of v'nahafoch hu, I recovered the previously lost comments Moving back to the heights soonish, likely spawning many interesting happenings. Had se'udah at future apartment with a bunch of YCT folk. Digital camera came in today Withheld a Purim posting because in the process of writing it, I realized I lost my sense of humor. Note that this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I have standards to uphold. Sunday I will be officiating my first wedding. More on this at some point. As some of you may or may not know one &#8230; <p><a href="http://www.joshyuter.com/2006/03/15/personal/whats-in-a-name/#more-189" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a></p></p><p>The post <a href="http://www.joshyuter.com/2006/03/15/personal/whats-in-a-name/">What's in a Name?</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.joshyuter.com">YUTOPIA</a>.</p>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Shushan Purim to All!<br />
All is well in YUTOPIA, some quick updates:</p>
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<li>In a nice case of <em><a href="http://www.nishmat.net/article.php?id=44&#038;heading=0">v'nahafoch hu</a></em>, I recovered the previously lost comments</li>
<li>Moving back to the heights soonish, likely spawning many interesting happenings.</li>
<li>Had se'udah at future apartment with a bunch of <a href="http://yctorah.org/">YCT</a> folk.</li>
<li>Digital camera came in today</li>
<li>Withheld a Purim posting because in the process of writing it, I realized I lost my sense of humor.  Note that this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I have <a href="http://yutopia.yucs.org/archives/2004/03/yutopias_guide.html">standards</a> to uphold.</li>
<li>Sunday I will be officiating my first wedding.  More on this at some point.</li>
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<p>As some of you may or may not know one of my first cousins is Deena Grant, married to Chaim Davis with whom I attended Gush so many years ago.  Anyway, last week Deena gave birth to a really cute baby boy.  At the bris this morning, the baby was named Akiva Eliezer, which as Chaim explained is partially after the baby's 10th generation ancestor (on the father's side), <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akiva_Eiger">R. Akiva Eiger</a>.<br />
Sounds nice, but I'm personally schepping the irony.  As Chaim noted, R. Eiger was known for his staunch opposition to all things <em>haskalah</em>.  Deena, on the other hand,  is a PhD student in Bible at NYU (<em><strike>hamaskil</strike> hameivin yavin</em>).<br />
No word yet on seismic activity in <a href="http://www.yarzheit.com/rebakivaeiger.htm">Bratislava</a>, but I'll keep you posted.</p>
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		<title>You&#039;ve Got....Marriage!</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Just got an e-mail from SawYouAtSinai shilling for www.purimbaskets.com: This Purim, send your Basherte [sic] a beautiful Purim basket from PurimBaskets.com Choose from an assorted array of elegant Purim baskets at affordable prices. Picture the joy when he or she receives this basket from PurimBaskets.com. You can also take this opportunity to show your appreciation to your matchmaker (shadchan). These Purim baskets will surely make them keep you in their minds. Shipping to USA, Canada, Israel and England. Ramo in O.C. 695 says that men should not give single women mishloach manot because it would create a safek kiddushin. Perhaps SYAS is more progressive (or agressive) than we thought in &#8230; <p><a href="http://www.joshyuter.com/2006/02/28/judaism/jewish-law-halakha/youve-got-marriage/#more-190" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a></p></p><p>The post <a href="http://www.joshyuter.com/2006/02/28/judaism/jewish-law-halakha/youve-got-marriage/">You've Got....Marriage!</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.joshyuter.com">YUTOPIA</a>.</p>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got an e-mail from <a href="http://sawyouatsinai.com/">SawYouAtSinai</a> shilling for <a href="http://purimbaskets.com/">www.purimbaskets.com</a>:</p>
<ul> This Purim, send your Basherte [sic] a beautiful Purim basket from PurimBaskets.com  Choose from an assorted array of elegant Purim baskets at affordable prices.  Picture the joy when he or she receives this basket from PurimBaskets.com. You can also take this opportunity to show your appreciation to your matchmaker (shadchan). These Purim baskets will surely make them keep you in their minds. Shipping to USA, Canada, Israel and England.</ul>
<p>Ramo in O.C. 695 says that men should not give single women <em>mishloach manot</em> because it would create a <em>safek kiddushin</em>.  Perhaps SYAS is more progressive (or agressive) than we thought in solving the shidduch crisis?</p>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.joshyuter.com/2006/02/28/judaism/jewish-law-halakha/youve-got-marriage/">You've Got....Marriage!</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.joshyuter.com">YUTOPIA</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>YUTOPIA&#039;s Guide To Purim Shticks</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Apologies to the Loyal Readers for the lack of Purim shticks this year. I have too much real work to do at the end of the quarter, so it's just not gonna happen.1 But I do feel the need to write about another dangerous practice of Purim: The Shticks. Each year, some people overdo it and wind up sick, hospitalized, or worse. The problems are exacerbated by a society which forces people to be clever - whether or not they actually have a sense of humor. If you're going to do some Purim shticks, don't go in without preparation. I've been involved in more shticks than I care to admit, &#8230; <p><a href="http://www.joshyuter.com/2004/03/05/odds-and-ends/shtick/yutopias-guide-to-purim-shticks/#more-331" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a></p></p><p>The post <a href="http://www.joshyuter.com/2004/03/05/odds-and-ends/shtick/yutopias-guide-to-purim-shticks/">YUTOPIA's Guide To Purim Shticks</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.joshyuter.com">YUTOPIA</a>.</p>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies to the Loyal Readers for the lack of Purim shticks this year.  I have too much real work to do at the end of the quarter, so it's just not gonna happen.<sup>1</sup>  But I do feel the need to write about another dangerous practice of Purim: The Shticks. Each year, some people overdo it and wind up sick, hospitalized, or worse. The problems are exacerbated by a society which forces people to be clever - whether or not they actually have a sense of humor.<br />
If you're going to do some Purim shticks, don't go in without preparation.  I've been involved in more shticks than I care to admit, and I've found that "being funny" is easier said than done.  Some people simply aren't funny, and others might be funny but have no idea how to make a good shtick or just try too hard.  So allow me help with some rules to make this Purim safe, enjoyable, and hopefully lynching free.</p>
<h3>Rule 1: Know The Types of Humor</h3>
<p>Humor is an art.  It's more than just throwing out one-liners or insults.  I recommend reading <a href="http://www.tomorrowlands.org/misc/humortypes.html?m=ow">A Netizen's Guide to Humor</a> for some general pointers.  Intelligent satire is better  than the one-liner insult.  Insulting one-liners aren't funny unless you're a professional like <a href="http://www.triumphtheinsultcomicdog.com/">Triumph the Insult Comic Dog</a>.  You're not.  Use some creativity.<br />
Satire is generally the best way to go for Purim shticks.  Here are a few suggestions:<br />
<b>Parodies</b><br />
If you're too lazy to come up with something from scratch, just take something popular and redo it.  <a href="http://joshyuter.com/2003/09/09/odds-and-ends/shtick/hamevaser-the-song/">Songs</a>, <a href="http://joshyuter.com/2003/09/09/odds-and-ends/shtick/masechet-bava-commie/">gemaras</a>, <a href="http://joshyuter.com/2003/09/09/odds-and-ends/shtick/les-mis/">ads</a>, articles, or whatever. What you do will normally depend on your forum.  Some shticks need to be performed, others are better in print.  If you're doing a magazine, be sure to mix up the styles.<br />
The original piece should be serious, thus increasing the comedic impact.  If you try to modify a comedy piece, you run the risk of extreme lameness.  The only way you could pull it off, is if your version is better than the original.  Try to pick something that would be familiar to your audience.  The Hamevaser song, although funny, was lost on most people.  In YU people either read Hamevaser, or they heard Dennis Leary.  Few people knew both.<br />
<b>Images</b><br />
Any idiot can fool around with <a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/compare/">Photoshop</a>, but few posess the twisted talent of <a href="http://www.yucs.org/~ephraim/WEISS.jpg">Ephraim Shapiro</a>.<sup>2</sup>  If you don't have the ability of Shapiro, use minimal image editing, and put more effort into the caption.  Take <a href="http://yuweb.addr.com/archives/purim/features/registrar.html">this</a> for example.  Initially, they just imposed "YU Registrar's Office" on the guy's butt.  I'm sure you will agree, the end result was much funnier.<br />
<b>Puns</b><br />
<a href="http://idealogian.yucs.org/">Reuven</a> summed up the problem with puns nicely: the better the pun, the worse it is.  They can be useful for a change of style to to give the joke another level of humor.  Just remember to use them sparingly. And never make a shtick completely out of puns.  You will get beat up.<br />
Trust me.<br />
Remember that details are important.  A poor choice of words can turn a funny shtick into a tasteless one.  A good idea with poor execution just isn't funny.  Even worse, you've wasted a good idea.  Finally, don't make a joke if it's too obvious.  If there is a joke that just <i>has</i> to be made, find a clever way of doing so.</p>
<h3>Rule 2: Know Your Audience</h3>
<p>You have to know your crowd.  What will they think is funny, what jokes won't they get, and what will they think is offensive?  Since you never know who is going to come across your shtick, try keep it tame or nuanced.  Remember that "funny" can be measured quantitatively by how many people think it's funny, and qualitatively by how funny it is.  Ideally, you'd like to maximize both, but realistically this is just about impossible.  If you can, layer the shtick with multiple meanings so it will work on a peshat and derash level.<br />
If you're writing a journal of some sort, remember that you don't have to have each article be funny to everyone.  Actually, it would probably be better to direct some shticks to certain types of people, provided the range of your readership is covered.</p>
<h3>Rule 3: Avoid Redundancies</h3>
<p>If it's been done before, don't do it again.  Fortunately Hamevaser hasn't had a Purim issue in years because they had this problem.  Essentially, most of the issue was written by one person.  While he was funny, the jokes got stale after the fifth year.  You'd have to go way way back to the Beis Grinky days to see some good original humor.</p>
<h3>Rule 4: Know Your Limits</h3>
<p>It's really important to know when you're not being funny or your just forcing it.  If your idea is lame, then drop it and move on.  If you have a good idea and need help with details, get some help.  Personally, I've done my best shticks while collaborating with people like <a href="http://droryikra.com">Ben</a> and <a href="http://thebronsteins.com">Avraham</a>.  Friends can tighten up details, and make sure it's funny to other people besides yourself.</p>
<h3>Rule 5: Safek Shtick Lehumra</h3>
<p>If you're unsure if it's funny or offensive, use discretion.  There is no shortage of lame, unfunny, and insulting shticks out there, and we don't need another one.  If you need filler, go for the surreal.  Some people might think it's lame, others will be too drunk to notice.  Odds are someone will be offended by any given shtick.  You don't have to be overly sensitive, but avoid gratuitous attacks.<br />
Again, if you're not sure how it will be received (or worse, you <i>are</i> sure), better to leave it out.</p>
<h3>Rule 6: There is NOOOOOO Rule 7</h3>
<p>Don't take yourself too seriously - this post included.<br />
If you have your own suggestions or warnings, add them to the comments.<br />
I'm about to become even more reclusive<sup>3</sup> as I go on a non-stop writing binge until Spring Break.  Expect blogging to be slow for the next two weeks or so unless something comes up.<br />
Purim Sameach<br />
<span class="footnote"><br />
1. Or at least not in time for Purim.  I might post some of them later, but we'll see.<br />
2. Although, I must give props to Ben for <a href="http://yuweb.addr.com/purim5759/features/tendler.shtml">this one</a>.<br />
3. Yes, that's possible.<br />
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		<title>Drinking On Purim</title>
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<h3>הָקִיצוּ שִׁכּוֹרִים וּבְכוּ וְהֵילִלוּ כָּל שֹׁתֵי יָיִן עַל עָסִיס כִּי נִכְרַת מִפִּיכֶם: </h3>
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<div align="center">"<i>Awake, ye drunkards, and weep, and wail, all ye drinkers of wine,<br />because of the sweet wine, for it is cut off from your mouth</i>"  (<a href="http://mechon-mamre.org/e/et/et1401.htm">Joel 1:5</a>)</div>
<p>Before I get to the shticks this year, I want to write about the dangerous practice of drinking on Purim.  Each year, some people overdo it and wind up sick, hospitalized, or worse.  The problems are exacerbated by Rabbis who encourage and sometimes force students to drink regardless if the students have the alcohol tolerance or are of the legal drinking age.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the Talmud seemingly requires excessive drinking; in which case, even 13 year olds would be obligated.   Lets begin with the relevant passage from <a href="http://mechon-mamre.org/b/l/l2901.htm">Megillah 7b</a>:</p>
<div align="right">אמר רבא: מיחייב איניש לבסומי בפוריא עד דלא ידע בין ארור המן לברוך מרדכי</div>
<p>This is loosely translated as "Rava said: a man is obligated to get drunk on Purim until he does not know the difference between "cursed Haman" and "blessed Mordechai."  This of course, requires an immense degree of intoxication.  Some major halakhic works simply cite this dictum without qualification (Rif 3b, Shulhan Aruch Orach Hayim 795:2).  Consequently many take this statement at face value, and therefore drink and encourage others to get inebriated, under the assumption that they are fulfilling a rabbinic commandment.</p>
<p>I've found <a href="http://www.sichosinenglish.org/cgi-bin/calendar?holiday=purim113">several</a> <a href="http://www.tzemachdovid.org/Vsamachta/purim97/drink.shtml">sources</a> <a href="http://www.koltorah.org/ravj/purimdrinking.htm">on</a> <a href="http://www.jewishmag.com/65mag/drinking/drinking.htm">the</a> <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/5444/drink.htm">web</a> which deal with this issue in one way or another, but I've found most of them to be lacking in real analysis.  What I will show here is that while this statement might be obligatory, it does not require the degree of drinking which is commonly practiced.</p>
<p>(For readability, I will be sacrificing some precision in translations).</p>
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First, let's examine the odd idiom employed by the Talmud.  Instead of using the common word "להשתכר" (<i>l'hishtaker</i>) to mean "to drink," Rava says a person is obligated "לבסומי." (<i>levisumei</i>) Rashi explains that "לבסומי" means to get drunk with wine, and he uses the expected terminology of "להשתכר ביין"  (<i>l'hishtaker b'yayin</i>).</p>
<p>However, the word "לבסומי" (<i>levesumei</i>) connotes something other than drinking.  We find this root used two other times in the tractate, usage indicated drinking.  First, in the preceding <i>sugya</i>, we are told why it isn't gluttony to partake in multiple purim meals.  One answer given is "רווחא לבסימא שכיח." - here meaning a person has room for "sweet things."<sup>1</sup> In <a href="http://mechon-mamre.org/b/l/l2904.htm">Megillah 32a</a>, R. Yohanan criticizes "those who read without pleasantness and learn without song" and applies <a href="http://mechon-mamre.org/e/et/et1220.htm">Yehezkel 20:25</a>.  Abaye asks R.Yohanan if he isn't a little extreme, "משום דלא ידע לבסומי קלא" - if people don't make their voices nice or "sweet."  In our case, even assuming the word "לבסומי" does refer to drinking, the word does not necessarily describe the extent required by most people.</p>
<p>Consider the passage which immediately follows Rava's statement:</p>
<div align="right"> רבה ורבי זירא עבדו סעודת פורים בהדי הדדי, איבסום, קם רבה שחטיה לרבי זירא. למחר בעי רחמי ואחייה. לשנה אמר ליה: ניתי מר ונעביד סעודת פורים בהדי הדדי! - אמר ליה: לא בכל שעתא ושעתא מתרחיש ניסא. </div>
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<ul>Rabbah and R. Zeira conducted their Purim meal in this manner: they got drunk (<i>ib'sum</i>), Rabba rose and killed R. Zeira.  The next day, Rabbah prayed, and R. Zeira lived.  The following year, Rabbah asked R. Zeira if they could make the Purim se'udah again in the same manner.  R. Zeira responded,  God does not perform miracles every time.</ul>
<p>How should we understand Rava's statement in light of this anecdote?  Some explain that this serves as a rejection of Rava, others suggest that drinking is obligatory and this story provides a warning for drinking in excess.</p>
<p>I don't read the anecdote as a response to Rava, but rather as an explanation of Rava's statement.  Textually, Rava's statement precedes the story of Rabbah and R. Zeira.  Chronologically however, Rabba and R. Zeira lived in the generation <b>before</b> Rava.<sup>2</sup>   Therefore, it is unlikely for Rabba and R. Zeira to be reacting to Rava.  Furthermore, in the text of Rabba and R. Zeira's story, we are only told that they "got drunk" - but not to any particular extent.  If anything, Rava knew of Rabba and R. Zeira's experience, and therefore <i>limited </i> the action of drinking until one loses his faculty for reason.  I.e. one is obligated only until that point, but not to go beyond.</p>
<p>Interpreting Rava as limiting intoxication conforms with other Talmudic passages.  <a href="http://mechon-mamre.org/b/l/l2206.htm">Eiruvin 64a,65a</a> defines three categories of drunkenness.  There is no official blood alcohol level for determining these levels, but there are halakhic distinctions.  First is <i>shitui</i> - a state of mild intoxication in which a person shouldn't pray, but if he does, the prayer is valid because he is in a state where he could respectfully approach a king.</p>
<p>The second level, a <i>shikkur</i>, refers to someone who is too drunk to pray, but is still held responsible for his actions - in the sense that his business dealings are legitimate and he is punishable for any halakhic offenses.  Finally, there is the person who even exceeds the inebriation of the shikkur - one who reaches the level of <i>shikruto shel Lot</i>.  According to the Bible, Lot's daughters got him drunk, slept with him, and got pregnant by him - twice.(<a href="http://mechon-mamre.org/e/et/et0119.htm">Bereishit 19:31-38</a>)    At any rate, this would (hopefully) require a significant amount of alcohol.  Someone who that intoxicated is exempt from all commandments and his business dealings are invalid.  This is someone who completely lacks mental capacity.</p>
<p>While few people commit incest on Purim, many reach the level of <i>shikruto shel Lot</i>.  I find it implausible that Rava would have required or advocated this degree of intoxication.  Were that the case, Rava would require someone to get so drunk that he would no longer be obligated in any commandments.</p>
<p>According to the Talmud, even being in a state of <i>shikhrut</i> prevents someone from fulfilling basic religious obligations.  A <i>shikkur</i> should not pray, and if he does his prayer is called "an abomination."(<a href="http://mechon-mamre.org/b/l/l2206.htm">Eiruvin 64a</a>)  A sage in this state may not decide Jewish law.(<a href="http://mechon-mamre.org/b/l/l2206.htm">Eiruvin 64b</a>)  A drunken priest may not serve in the temple.(<a href="http://mechon-mamre.org/b/l/l2505.htm">Yoma 49a</a>)  It is therefore hardly surprising that the R. Yohanan calls these people "rebellious" and "sinners"(<a href="http://mechon-mamre.org/b/l/l3302.htm">Nedarim 20b</a>). </p>
<p>Practically, few if any traditional halakhic sources advocate getting drunk to the extreme.  Here are some opinions cited in various sources. (Note, this is not a complete list, nor does it cover multiple citations in one source - there is usually an overlapping of opinions).</p>
<p><b>Rosh</b> (Megillah 1:8) - Based on the Yerushalmi, Rosh defines the limit of drunkenness to being able to recite the liturgical passage at the end of the Megillah reading.</p>
<p><b>R'avyah</b> (Megillah 564) - It's a commandment, but not obligatory.  (Mitzvah, but not hiyyuv)</p>
<p><b>R. Ephraim, Ba'al Hameor, Ramban, Beit Yosef (695:1),  Biur Halakha (695 sv Ad)</b> and others  - There is an obligation for besumei,  but it's an outright prohibition to get drunk (l'hishtaker) for drunkenness leads to licentiousness, murder, and lots of other bad things.</p>
<p><b>Rambam</b> (Laws of Megillah and Hannukah 2:15), <b>Ramo</b> (695:2), others - Drink more than usual and sleep it off.</p>
<p><b>Maharil</b> (Laws of Purim) - In Gematria, "cursed Haman" equals "blessed Mordechai" (in Hebrew).  Therefore, you drink until you can no longer do the math.(Some people don't even need the alcohol)</p>
<p><b>Conclusions</b></p>
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<li>There seems to be an obligation to drink, but in moderation</li>
<li>The drinking should be done with a degree of reverence for the day.  Happiness is ok, levity is not</li>
<li>Rava continues that the meal must be held during the day.  Since drinking is only in the context of the Purim meal, anyone who drinks at night does so purely for hedonistic reasons. </li>
<li>If you wish to drink, know the limits of halakhic drinking and hedonistic drinking.  Excess was never intended, nor should it be encouraged.</li>
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<p>I don't know if this will help matters.  Those who want to get hammered are going to do so anyway.  I do feel it's necessary to write this to show people that Jewish law still applies on Purim.  If you want to drink excessively, you have the free will to do so.  However, if you do act irresponsibly, you do so without the consent of the halakhic tradition.</p>
<p><span class="footnote"><br />
1. Rashi translates this usage as "?????? ????".<br />
2. Rabba (Bar Nachman) and R. Zeira were <a href=" http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view_friendly.jsp?artid=1421&#038;letter=A">third generation</a> Babylonian Amoraim, Rava was a <a href="http://courses.jtsa.edu/tal/introdemo/people/">fourth generation</a> Amora.  This of course, assumes we can rely on the attributions.  Dikdukei Soferim does not note any other texts which include different people in these sugyot.<br />
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